People said we were being alarmist when we said extremist Christian nationalists would use the abortion laws to target women trying to escape Texas to receive an abortion.
@Blort Or requiring all drivers to stop at checkpoints, present their papers, and reasons for traveling out of state. Reasons which would have to be registered with the state in a beurocracy that would, by comparison, make the DMV seem easy to navigate.
@TechyDad @Blort I can imagine mandatory pregnancy tests at state border checkpoints and just a general prohibition of traveling out of state for pregnant women in the theocratic states
Well, this seems like a pretty clear constitutionally protected freedom of movement violation. For a group of people so hell-bent on complaining about government over-reach, they sure are experts in how to keep over-reaching.
I guess no one there has bothered to read Gibbons v. Ogden (1824)
This Supreme Court decision forbade states from enacting any legislation that would interfere with Congress's right to regulate commerce among the separate states.
EnlargeDownload Link Citation: Decree in Gibbons v. Ogden; 3/2/1824; Engrossed Minutes, 2/1790 - 6/7/1954; Records of the Supreme Court of the United States, Record Group 267; National Archives Building, Washington, DC.
I must be really dumb, because I can't tell what I'm looking at here. A lot lined up along 87? I mean, one dark orange zone is way down by the coast... ?
People said we were being alarmist when we said extremist Christian nationalists would use the abortion laws to target women trying to escape Texas to receive an abortion.
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We just moved from Texas to New Mexico 6 weeks ago. I have a 15yo daughter, and I want her to grow up somewhere where women have rights. I'm breathing a sigh of relief right now.
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- There is no hell deep enuf for these reptiles. And as long as thereβs a radicalized Supreme Court, there may be no legal way to stop em. Other than for Texans to vote em out, of course.
I am observing the slow train crash ending in a civil war apocalypse wirg bemusement, amusement and a sense of regret for the few normal people in the USA. You guys need to act, before you wish you had someone as sane, stable and liberal thinking as Trump. Cos your trajectory is making Hitler look like ein Milchbube...
Idaho had the same problems. OB/GYN's have left Idaho and across the border in Wash. State our clinics are full of Idaho women seeking aide from us and we don't tell anyone in Idaho.
Maybe they should focus on some of the fake news, like the electrical grid, flooding, or mass murder. But that would require them to have actual life skills. Hopefully we at least get some art out of this repression, like Riverdance or most of the genres of music.
You are DANGEROUSLY wrong. (edit - ie. if you believe they will only follow legal channels)
Again, think Nazis.
They will make a big show of trying to pass laws that "those demo-commie-crats" will block, then cry about how oppressed they "feel" about it, and then will use that to rouse their rabble. That's the publicity angle covered.
They have *ZERO* interest in *actually* passing laws about this (except where its easy / they get lucky).
They just want to incite their followers, who do things like:
* Report women leaving their homes (Tracking) * Follow them (Intimidation) * "protest" (read: violently assault women and workers) at clinics. (deny access)
Well, You seemed arguing about "actual legal enforcement", which is something that I don't actually believe does (or even can) exist. At not if one believes in human rights.
I replied to you by saying that there is no such thing as legal enforcement of laws that violate human rights.
Your initial question, however, was "How do they plan to enforce this?" Which I believe I have just answered.
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•I guess no one there has bothered to read Gibbons v. Ogden (1824)
This Supreme Court decision forbade states from enacting any legislation that would interfere with Congress's right to regulate commerce among the separate states.
https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/gibbons-v-ogden
Gibbons v. Ogden (1824)
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Doesn't this stuff fall afoul of the interstate commerce clause?
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People said we were being alarmist when we said extremist Christian nationalists would use the abortion laws to target women trying to escape Texas to receive an abortion.
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•The GOP's anti-reproductive rights laws target black and hispanic women the most.
Republican billionaire donors know that black and brown women don't vote GOP & there's nothing like an unplanned pregnancy to derail a woman's life.
So much of their behavior is reminiscent of the Fugitive Slave Acts.
Republican billionaire donors want to repeal the 19th and thwart the passage of the ERA.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugitive_Slave_Act_of_1850
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Time for a revolution
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•Even then the outlines of a patriarchal, white supremacist, totalitarian regime were visible to those who were paying attention.
In the book it was known as the Republic of #Gilead, today it's the Republic of #Texas.
(Now available as a TV show on Hulu.)
The #AmericanTaliban is ready today to do whatever they think they can get away with. π₯₯
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Cos your trajectory is making Hitler look like ein Milchbube...
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History is full of "christian" hostility. It needs to be stopped.
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— (Cheshire, UK)You are DANGEROUSLY wrong. (edit - ie. if you believe they will only follow legal channels)
Again, think Nazis.
They will make a big show of trying to pass laws that "those demo-commie-crats" will block, then cry about how oppressed they "feel" about it, and then will use that to rouse their rabble. That's the publicity angle covered.
They have *ZERO* interest in *actually* passing laws about this (except where its easy / they get lucky).
They just want to incite their followers, who do things like:
* Report women leaving their homes (Tracking)
* Follow them (Intimidation)
* "protest" (read: violently assault women and workers) at clinics. (deny access)
Which part of that requires new laws?
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Well, You seemed arguing about "actual legal enforcement", which is something that I don't actually believe does (or even can) exist. At not if one believes in human rights.
I replied to you by saying that there is no such thing as legal enforcement of laws that violate human rights.
Your initial question, however, was "How do they plan to enforce this?" Which I believe I have just answered.
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•Is that actually obstructing interstate commerce? Not that SCOTUS necessarily would agree.
What the WTO calls βmode 4 of service provision, natural person moves abroad to receive the serviceβ?
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